The National Anthem
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In Japan ,the National Anthem can be interpreted by the people very differently.What do you personaly think of your own National Anthem the 'Majulah Singapura' ? Some sportsmen would put their right hand across the chest or salute while others would just sing it out loud as expected to.What about you? Do you even know the words and its meaning If you were an FT would you be proud to learn and understand it.I have never really notice a Singaporean Sportman singing it before and after winning a sports event have you? Discuss why you would /wouldnt sing it.
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if its our locals, maybe its because singing it was a chore done everyday when they were students
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I think the majority of non-malay speaking Singaporeans don't understand what the national Anthem means, I wouldn't expect too much from FTs if that is the case.
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malayor non malay speaking......you must understand word for word wot you are saying.......
its like saying an oath you dun understand or signing a contract you barely even know wot the terms are
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They should change the national anthem to english since singapore is a multi-racial country...
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the simplest reason why many Singaporeans dont sing it is because many of us do not speak malay. all we know about the anthem is tt it is made up of different tones n pitches to be repeated at different intervals. al of which we burned into memory since we were babes in school. how many people out there can actually sing and translate what the anthem means? thus saying, who would want to sing it out in public knowing that there will be so many mistakes in pronunciation and what else....
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thats y it should be changed to english... The song & lyrics stay but the language stays... Dun care la if malays protest... this is not truly asia... No bumi putra policies...
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a teacher in primary school once told me i should not be singing it since i wasnt singaporean.
then in secondary school i got scolded because i didnt sing it.
what then exactly am i supposed to do
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thats y the translation of the song should be changed to english...
Dun care la if the malays protest... This is not truly asia... No bumiputra policy...
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I disagree with the changing of the national anthem.....
we do have translations of if......which is titled onward singapore.....
if singapore were to change it to english......it just proves how uncultured we are becoming.....we cannot forget who we were nor the origin of the island.......
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at least our pledge is in english you know
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Originally posted by kramnave:
I think the majority of non-malay speaking Singaporeans don't understand what the national Anthem means, I wouldn't expect too much from FTs if that is the case.
dont they have classes for that cuz if you understand it then the pronunciation for the words would also sound better.Like learning a foreign pop song because you really want to sing along.
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bloody hell...i can't believe sporeans got so many ignorant people....even national anthem dun know how to do research.......wot kinda people are you? on your shool diary normally have the translation lah.....
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only malays and some non malays understand the national anthem... Lets say the national athem is in french, but cannot do anything coz its was that way... would u sing the national anthem if u dun understand what u r singing...
So wat if there is translation? the non malays would understand the overview of the anthem, but would they understand word by word?
The national anthem is in malay, how r the chinese, indian, non-malay cultures associated with the language of the national anthem.
No need change song, or the lyrics... it's a like a pledge to the country... What would the anthem mean if the song is not understood while singing it...
Origin of this island? I dun get u... Is it becoz the malays were here b4 the non malays that's y it was originated by the malays?
I think its better if translated to english... Singapore is a multi-racial country not all malays country... Our culture to have to 'evolve' so as to have a better, more tolerant & understanding nation...
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from wiki:
"Majulah Singapura" ("Onward Singapore") is the national anthem of Singapore. Composed by Zubir Said in 1958 as a theme song for official functions of the City Council of Singapore, the song was selected in 1959 as the island's anthem when it attained self-government. Upon full independence in 1965, "Majulah Singapura" was formally adopted as Singapore's national anthem. By law the anthem may only be sung with its original Malay lyrics, although there exist authorized translations of the lyrics of the anthem in Singapore's three other official languages: English, Mandarin and Tamil.
Originally composed in the key of G major, in 2001 the national anthem was officially relaunched in the lower key of F major as this was said to allow for a "grander and more inspiring arrangement".
The national anthem is regularly performed or sung in schools and armed forces camps at ceremonies held at the beginning and/or the end of each day, during which the national flag is also raised and lowered and the national pledge is taken. Singaporeans are especially encouraged to sing the national anthem on occasions of national celebration or national significance such as at the National Day Parade, at National Day observance ceremonies conducted by educational institutions and government departments, and at sporting events at which Singapore teams are participating.
The composition of "Majulah Singapura" occurred during a push for independence from the United Kingdom. While Singapore was a British colony, its national anthem was "God Save the King (or Queen)". In 1951, the colony was conferred city status by a royal charter from King George VI. In 1958, Ong Pang Boon, the Deputy Mayor of the City Council of Singapore, approached Zubir Said (1907–1987), a score arranger and songwriter with Cathay-Keris Film Productions, to compose a theme song for the Council's official functions to be titled "Majulah Singapura" ("Onward Singapore"). This phrase was chosen as it was a motto to be displayed in the Victoria Theatre after its renovation in 1958.[1][2]
Zubir took a year to finish composing the music and lyrics for the song. In a 1984 oral history interview, he recalled the process: "[T]he difficulty is in such a short melody, I have to put in all the words... [I]t must be very simple, understandable for all the races in Singapore... I consult also [sic] an author in Malay language so that I can do it in proper Malay language but not too deep and not too difficult.[3] Summing up his philosophy when composing the anthem, Zubir cited the Malay proverb "Di mana bumi dipijak, di situ langit dijunjung" ("You should hold up the sky of the land where you live").[4]
The completed composition was first performed on 6 September 1958 by the Singapore Chamber Ensemble during the grand finale of a concert staged in the Victoria Theatre to celebrate its official reopening.[5]
In 1959, Singapore attained self-government and the City Council was dissolved. The Government felt that a national anthem was needed to unite the different races in Singapore. The Deputy Prime Minister Toh Chin Chye selected the City Council's song as it was already popular. At Toh's request, Zubir modified the lyrics and melody,[1] and the revised song was adopted by the Legislative Assembly on 11 November 1959. On 30 November the Singapore State Arms and Flag and National Anthem Ordinance 1959[6] was passed to regulate the use and display of these national emblems. "Majulah Singapura" was formally introduced to the nation on 3 December when Yusof bin Ishak was inaugurated as the Yang di-Pertuan Negara, Singapore's head of state. At the same occasion, which also marked the launch of "Loyalty Week", the national flag and the state crest were introduced. After Singapore's full independence from Malaysia on 9 August 1965, "Majulah Singapura" was formally adopted as the Republic's national anthem.[7]
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not even the all the singapore citizens have the right to change the law...so....too bad lor....
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of course la cannot change... unfortunately... but should change lor... the malays r the minority here... they should join their brothers n sisters in m'sia lol. The malay language sucks btw...
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the point of the national anthem is about being patriotic no matter wot race or language we use.....
besides....since singapore did belonged to malays and since we are surrounded by malay speaking countries....we must show them that we can be patriotic of our tiny nation and that we do not forget our origins nor do we change them......
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
of course la cannot change... unfortunately... but should change lor... the malays r the minority here... they should join their brothers n sisters in m'sia lol. The malay language sucks btw...
hmm...perhaps you didn't get my point......malays may be minority but please remember.....singapore is not a chinese state.....
i think the founders of the nation would really be disappointed at wot kinda people spore has bred today......
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then singapore is wat, malay state? r u sure? the indonesians claim that m'sia n s'pore is their state too... so which is it? this land may be once dominant by the malays, but no is not the case anymore isit?
the most of the founders r dead... y need to look into the past? shouldnt we look into the future instead? dun tell me u wan s'pore to be like truly asia, still stuck at the back of time bcoz the m'sian malays dun like change...
it's time to look at the future NOT the past...
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that's stupid
to want to change the language of the national anthem to english.if anything, either write different versions for each of the official languages spoken in singapore. or change it such that it incorporates all the official languages.
eh white_soulreaper. do you even know whats the purpose of the national anthem???
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tell me...
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evolving our culture?
we are a country mind you.......our culture may evolve but our history may never do that.....if people wanna come here.....they have to adapt to our culture...not change it.....
its becoz people like you who critisize the language etc...of the people who belonged our history is the reason why there are many multi-racial disputes.....
there are differences between multi racial and multi cultural you know......
chinese get like priority in many jobs here.......do malays or indians protest?
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
They should change the national anthem to english since singapore is a multi-racial country...
If it is truly multi-racial then let no changes be made.Why can't Singaporeans be proud of their Anthem like the South Americans or Eastern Europeans?
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
thats y it should be changed to english... The song & lyrics stay but the language stays... Dun care la if malays protest... this is not truly asia... No bumi putra policies...
Even the USA would never change the 'Star Spangled Banner' to spanish.